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Je profite de l'ouverture de ce thread pour poster une version définitive (?) de l'ordre de lecture
des cross-over Dark Reign et Siege

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Start of Dark Reign (post Secret Invasion #8):

New Avengers #47 - Post Invasion but somewhat pre-Dark Reign, starts the storyline for the skrull abduction of Danielle Cage.

Secret Invasion: Dark Reign One Shot - The Cabal is formed between newly appointed H.A.M.M.E.R. director Norm Osborn, Dr. Doom, Loki (in Sif's body), Emma Frost, Namor, and the Hood. Alliances begin the year long Dark Reign story.

The Hood #1-5 - Takes place before New Avengers #47-50 and after Invincible Iron Man "Most Wanted". The reference for this mini series series taking place after the "Most Wanted" is when Namor during their Cabal meeting in Hood #2 refers to his battle with Iron Man underwater in Invincible Iron Man #12 when Tony polluted the water around Namor and got away from him.

New Avengers #48-50 - Beginning of Dark Reign for the New Avengers. The Jarvis skrull kidnaps Danielle and the New Avengers go on the lookout for it. Luke Cage enlists Norman's help for tracking his daughter down and gets him the results. Luke however betrays Norman via the mystical crowbar and escapes.

Norman also lays a trap on the New Avengers in #50 by tricking them into fighting the Hood and his group, the Dark Avengers vs New Avengers fight would be touched upon again in the Free Comic Book Day issue and more fully realized in New Avengers #55-60 and Siege.

Free Comic Book Day: The Avengers - This issue is in the perspective of Spider-Man, Thor falls from the sky due to his battle with Ymir the powerful and mythical frost giant. The New Avengers and Dark Avengers team up to find the Twilight Sword and take it from Ymir. This is the last time we see Iron Fist with the New Avengers and Marvel Boy a.k.a Noh-Varr with the Dark Avengers.

Who is the next Sorcerer Supreme?

New Avengers #51-54 - Following Dr. Strange's falling out of the Sorcerer Supreme title in New Avengers Annual #2, the big magical shake out crowns the next Sorcerer Supreme and leads into both Dr. Voodoo and Dr. Strange seperate mini series.

Doctor Voodoo #1-5 - Takes place after "Who is the next Sorcerer Supreme" as Jericho Drumm has been given the Sorcerer Supreme title.

Dr. Strange #1-4

New Avengers: The Reunion #1-4

X-Men/Dark Avengers Utopia Crossover:

Dark X-Men The Confession #1
(One-Shot)

Utopia: Dark X-Men #1-3 - This mini series is set before the events of Utopia. Norman Osborn recruits his Dark X-Men before they appear fully in Uncanny X-Men #513.

Chapter One - Utopia #1, X-Men Legacy #226 & 227
Chapter Two - Uncanny X-Men #513
Chapter Three - Dark Avengers #7
Chapter Four - Uncanny X-Men #514
Chapter Five - Dark Avengers #8
Conclusion - Dark Avengers/Uncanny X-Men: Exodus


Dark Reign: The List X-Men - Osborn still angry at Emma and Namor for their defection from the Cabal sics a mutated Marrina at Namor and the X-Men. Norman is unsuccessful and is warned by Namor.

New Avengers #55-60 - Bucky and the New Avengers go after Chemistro, fight Hood's group, fight the Dark Avengers, and save Luke from his heart condition and is in recovery.

Captain America Reborn:

Captain America Reborn
- Bucky and Natasha go on a reconnaissance mission to find Cap after the events of Captain America #600. They come into conflict with Norman, find Steve (albeit under Red Skull's control), Steve fights it, we see Clint's reaction to Steve here already as well as Bucky, Falcon, Hank Pym, Natasha, and Sharon's. Who will Wield the shield shows Cage working out here but nothing contradicts that he isn't still in recovery here. Cage knows that Steve is around but hasn't met him yet.

Post Captain America Reborn:

Invincible Iron Man #20-24: "Stark Disassembled" - Bucky, Steve, and Donald/Thor visit Stark and try to give his heart a jump start. Dr. Strange intervenes and is incapacitated, Tony Stark revives from his coma and ejects Ghost from Broxton to Asgard (followed up in Thunderbolts #141).

Dark Reign: The List Avengers - Post Utopia and still during Cage's recovery and continues the plot line set forth by New Avengers with Clint wanting to kill Norman. Leads into the New Avengers Annual #3.

New Avengers Annual #3 - The New Avengers women go to rescue Clint, Cap shows up in the end and Bucky, Clint, and Bobbi are surprised to see Cap in his uniform.

Dark Avengers Annual #1 - Norman sends Sentry out to deal with Noh-Varr, the Dark Avengers soon follow but Noh-Varr escapes. End of the comic reveals Steve and Bucky gathering intelligence on Noh-Varr.

Siege & it's beginnings:

Dark Avengers #13 & 14- Happens 2 to 3 days before Siege the Cabal.

Siege The Cabal - Norman is revealed to still be talking to his Green Goblin mask/persona. Namor and Emma are noticeably absent due to the events in Utopia, in their place is Taskmaster. Dr. Doom confronts Norman about Namor and things erupt between Dr. Doom and Norman, Norman's mysterious enforcer shows his hand and damages Dr. Doom but is revealed to be a Doombot. Dr. Doom then pulls a trap using the Doombot on Norman, the Dark Avengers, and Stark Tower. After these events Loki gives Norman the idea of replicating the Stamford incident with Nitro to gain publicity and support by the president and the American people.

Avengers The Initiative #31 - Siege Cabal tie in.

Dark Avengers #15 - Reveals the truth behind Siege The Cabal regarding the Void being Osborn's secret weapon also seen in Dark Avengers #13 and #14 previously.

New Avengers #61-62 - Steve doesn't stay long with the New Avengers after New Avengers Annual #3 and only takes Bucky on a recon mission to check out his apartment in Brooklyn which was blown up in the Annual and thus also has to take place after Cap Reborn because Steve and Sharon were shacking up there. Luke goes back to the apartment and sees Steve again although in different uniform and is still in disbelief but finally formally meets with Steve up close and personal. Cap goes back to the Brooklyn safe house with Bucky and Luke and the Secret Warriors and they are all re-introduced to each other with Carol having her emotional scene with Steve.

Origins of Siege #1 - Freebie which has Norman talking again to Loki about the 9 realms and one page origins of Cabal and Siege players. Note: The Brian Bendis/Lucio Parillo prologue is also included in the Siege #1 Directors Cut.

Siege #1/Siege #1 Directors Cut

Siege Embedded #1-2: Why are these grouped together? They read best in these two parts read one after the other. Siege: Embedded #3 makes more sense reading after Siege #1, 2, and 3 since it's events run parallel to those three books during that issue. In these two issues, Volstagg is picked up after the events of Siege #1 and his journey leads him into Thor #607 which will be his fight with Ragnarok.

Avengers The Initiative #32 - Fills in some details pre-Siege and during Siege such as Taskmaster, Constrictor, and Diamondback's roles as well as the New Warriors.

Dark Wolverine #82 - Like Initiative #32 happens a little before Siege and during Siege #1.

Siege #2

Thor #607
- Shows Balder and the Asgardians reaction to Volstagg vs the U-Foes at soldier field, fills in blanks on Heimdall, Ragnarok shows up to fight Volstagg in Broxton.

Avengers Initiative #33

Dark Wolverine #83
- Read after Siege #2, takes place during Siege #1 and #2.

Thunderbolts #141

Siege #3

New Avengers #63

Thor #608


New Mutants #11 - Read this after Thor #608 for better effect, this is after Tyr's "death" and is also written by Kieron Gillen.

Mighty Avengers #35

Avengers The Initiative #34

Siege Embedded #3

Thunderbolts #142

Dark Wolverine #84

Thor #609 - Read this before Siege #4. Loki is shown here before his final play with the Norn stones, Balder and the Asgardians are also resolving certain situations before the major Void battle in Siege #4.

Mighty Avengers #36 - This leads into Siege #4 after the Ultron stuff is dealt with. Hank Pym, Quicksilver, and a few others aren't explicitly shown in Siege #4 but we can just assume that they take part in it.

Siege #4

New Avengers #64 - Takes the Hood beat from Siege #4 and runs with it which gets picked up with the New Avengers Finale.

New Avengers Finale

Avengers The Initiative #35 - Read this after the New Avengers Finale as there is a scene pertaining to Tigra and the Hood after he's been incarcerated due to the events of the New Avengers Finale.

Thunderbolts #143

Siege Embedded #4

Dark Avengers #16

The Sentry: Fallen Sun

Have not placed in time line yet: Thor, Mighty Avengers.
Source : CBR

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